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. ♪ >>> house republicans staged a new year's day revolt against the senate bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m. house democratic leader nancy pelosi attempted to put pressure on tonight. she posted this on twitter saying quote, strong majority of house democrats support the bipartisan senate bill that passed 89-8. confident it will pass and speaker boehner allows an up or down vote. and republicans like congressman jack kingston of georgia blame the senate for a hastily written bill. >> it was way past those senators' bedtime. they were blurry eyed when they were reading it. we're trying to fill in the g
. ♪ >>> house republicans staged a new year's day revolt against the senate bill to avoid the fiscal cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier...
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the back for avoiding the fiscal cliff. much't know how congratulation we ought to have for that. yesterday i was buying some groceries, and the guy at the checkout stand had no idea who i was, and should not have. he said, what is going on on capitol hill? what are those people doing? we ought to fire everybody in congress. they cannot get their work done. we have to get our work done. they don't have to get their work done. he made a good point. it is down to the level of gross restore check out people, and i suspect other levels than that. people are tuned into the news media or entertainment media. they call it the fiscal cliff, so that it appears to be in niagara falls with money running over it. more of a gradual slope, but we have to stop this downward slope that we are on. it is important that we do that. this is the body that can do that. congress can do that. we do a war of words around here, this protecting the ridgc. h the problem goes into the definition of rich, and that is a hard one to explain. any attempt t
the back for avoiding the fiscal cliff. much't know how congratulation we ought to have for that. yesterday i was buying some groceries, and the guy at the checkout stand had no idea who i was, and should not have. he said, what is going on on capitol hill? what are those people doing? we ought to fire everybody in congress. they cannot get their work done. we have to get our work done. they don't have to get their work done. he made a good point. it is down to the level of gross restore check...
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i'm richard lui, you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. eric cantor emerging from a meeting saying he does not support the senate-passed bill. house speaker bonn janer is not likely to bring the senate bill to the floor without changes is what we're hearing and in a statement boehner's spokesman said the speaker and leader laid out options to the members and listened to feedback. the lack of spending cuts in the senate bill was our universal concern amongst members in today's meetings. conversations will continue throughout the afternoon on the path forward. outgoing republican congressman steven latourette told nbc's luke russert the senate bill did not stand much of a bill in the house. take a listen. >> i think it's a little unreasonable for senator reid to say that something they produced on new year's eve, produced by a bunch of sleep-deprived octogenarians is what we should adopt within 48 hours. >> laetset's bring in mike viqu. we understand there have been meetings throughout the afternoon. >> reporter: the future of this bill, the
i'm richard lui, you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. eric cantor emerging from a meeting saying he does not support the senate-passed bill. house speaker bonn janer is not likely to bring the senate bill to the floor without changes is what we're hearing and in a statement boehner's spokesman said the speaker and leader laid out options to the members and listened to feedback. the lack of spending cuts in the senate bill was our universal concern amongst...
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cliff. technically we've gone over the cliff. doesn't feel any different. >> doesn't feel different. they did a clever thing which i haven't thought of is today there is no stock market. there's a holiday. remember for the package that in the days of the bush administration, the market went down over 700 points and all of a sudden they found religion and they passed something. there is no market today. so we don't have the injury or pain but tomorrow there will be and believe me, if there is no deal and it doesn't vote favorably in the house and the president doesn't sign the bill, watch the stock market. >> is this whatever happens do you get the sense, this is going to be a short-term solution until we get to this february debt ceiling? >> oh, absolutely. the debt ceiling is going to make this look like kindergarten. >> fox 5 political analyst. >> another big story we are following don't same sex marriage in maryland it's now officially legal for couples to wed. and what a way to start the
cliff. technically we've gone over the cliff. doesn't feel any different. >> doesn't feel different. they did a clever thing which i haven't thought of is today there is no stock market. there's a holiday. remember for the package that in the days of the bush administration, the market went down over 700 points and all of a sudden they found religion and they passed something. there is no market today. so we don't have the injury or pain but tomorrow there will be and believe me, if there...
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the big story here today: real questions at this hour about whether the senate passed fiscal cliff legislation will make it out of the house in one piece. moments ago, you are looking at video of house speaker john boehner and majority leader eric cantor walking in a republican conference meeting together. a show of solidarity, perhaps, after cantor came out against the bill that passed the senate this morning. looking live outside the meeting now. tonight on "special report," g.o.p. lawmakers are suggesting they may amend that bill and send it back to the senate. we'll explain what that means when we have live reports on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. potennial market reaction to the late moves. at the white house, president obama's plane but gassed up and ready to go back to hawaii. but with no vote and no communication with boehner, what now? "special report" from washington with all the fiscal cliff latest starts at 6:00. now back to "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan: getting redty to party. the last segment we took a look at the serious moments on "the five" this year. now let's get to
the big story here today: real questions at this hour about whether the senate passed fiscal cliff legislation will make it out of the house in one piece. moments ago, you are looking at video of house speaker john boehner and majority leader eric cantor walking in a republican conference meeting together. a show of solidarity, perhaps, after cantor came out against the bill that passed the senate this morning. looking live outside the meeting now. tonight on "special report," g.o.p....
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the fiscal cliff deal approvaled overwhelmingly faces strong opposition by house republicans. in fact, the number two house republican leader says he does not support it and now a new deadline threatens to send it back to the drawing board. and dana bash is on capitol hill. dana, what is the latest as far as the republican majority in the house is concerned? >> reporter: the latest, wolf, is that republicans will reconvene and have a second meeting in 15 minutes. down this hall, house republican leaders are still huddling but they announced that they are going to call republicans back together. perhaps that is because they have an idea of the the game plan that they want to pursue after they heard for about an hour and a half this afternoon from their rank and file by all accounts there certainly is a lot of interpret pi dags and voting to simply approve what the senate passed last night not only overwhelmingly, 90% of the senate voted for it, but it passed overwhelmingly among the fellow republicans. again, the percentage is about 90% of senate republicans voted in favor of t
the fiscal cliff deal approvaled overwhelmingly faces strong opposition by house republicans. in fact, the number two house republican leader says he does not support it and now a new deadline threatens to send it back to the drawing board. and dana bash is on capitol hill. dana, what is the latest as far as the republican majority in the house is concerned? >> reporter: the latest, wolf, is that republicans will reconvene and have a second meeting in 15 minutes. down this hall, house...
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>>> as we continue to keep an eye on the fiscal cliff, the republicans continue to meet behind closed doors, a meeting described as a bit noisy and excited. the democrats just finished their meeting with vice president joe biden. that was described as an evangelical meeting. still unclear whether a vote by the house will take place on the bill that was passed by the senate or whether in fact they will amend it and send it back to the senate. joining us from washington, bob cusack, the managing editor of the online journal the hill. and, so, bob what is the latest word you have as to what is going on and whether in fact john boehner can get his people together to vote for this? >> well, it is going to be very difficult. house republicans don't like the senate passed bill, even though it passed 89-8. it looks like the house will pass something to return it back to the senate. they'll amend it in some way, it looks like, because they don't like this $4 trillion price tag that just came out over the last ten minutes, cbo just released that. and this is just a tough vote for house conserva
>>> as we continue to keep an eye on the fiscal cliff, the republicans continue to meet behind closed doors, a meeting described as a bit noisy and excited. the democrats just finished their meeting with vice president joe biden. that was described as an evangelical meeting. still unclear whether a vote by the house will take place on the bill that was passed by the senate or whether in fact they will amend it and send it back to the senate. joining us from washington, bob cusack, the...
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they are waiting to reconvene to take up the fiscal cliff deal. after the gop meeting, we may learn when the house might vote on the deal and when republicans might amend it. house democrats are meeting on capitol hill with vice president joe biden. he is there to explain the deal he and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell brokered and that the senate approved. >>> the white house is keeping a close eye on today's developments in the house. stay with msnbc for more updates. and now back to hardball. >>> two steps forward, one step backward. let's play "hard ball." >> let me start this last night of the year with this, two steps forward, one step forward, that's the year if you look at it. so many good decisions as a society. we saw the angry faces of reaction to demographic change in the beginning. the people bringing guns to political events. the faces of hatred in the birther mularkey. the dog whistling whether it was about the president or his surrogate, susan rice. guess what? none of it worked. it just didn't. who would have known how powe
they are waiting to reconvene to take up the fiscal cliff deal. after the gop meeting, we may learn when the house might vote on the deal and when republicans might amend it. house democrats are meeting on capitol hill with vice president joe biden. he is there to explain the deal he and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell brokered and that the senate approved. >>> the white house is keeping a close eye on today's developments in the house. stay with msnbc for more updates. and now...
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on thist your take fiscal cliff deal. david in louisiana, republican caller. caller: i feel this bill is not really accomplishing anything. if we keep ignoring what we are doing with the tax dollars, iciest of money going to refuse -- i see this money going to a very few states and individuals. it is not stimulating manufacturing here. we are buying chinese solar panels and trying to offset that by putting tariffs on imports. it is a big joke. i'm not speaking just on the federal approval. that is just one example. we've got to have oversight and planning. we've got to do something that will not have long-range negative impacts. we've got to control spending. it is not a democrat or republican gain. we have to be realistic about what we are spending our money on. host: marla in missouri. go ahead. caller: a couple of things. the last few callers are right. it is not a democrat or republican. it is the whole cabinet. the thing that gets me is that ronald reagan did are all the money from social security. i am one of those people. i'm also on social security now
on thist your take fiscal cliff deal. david in louisiana, republican caller. caller: i feel this bill is not really accomplishing anything. if we keep ignoring what we are doing with the tax dollars, iciest of money going to refuse -- i see this money going to a very few states and individuals. it is not stimulating manufacturing here. we are buying chinese solar panels and trying to offset that by putting tariffs on imports. it is a big joke. i'm not speaking just on the federal approval. that...
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a lot of people speak passionately, i assume about the fiscal cliff before the republican convene in a smaller group. >> reporter: the house convened at 12:00 and what happens when the house convenes, every day they have what's called one-minute speeches. this is one of the opportunities for members of congress to come and say their peace and say what's on their mind and they have one minute. i'm sure what is on all members' mind at this point how they feel about the fiscal cliff deal. >> looking at live pictures of that taking place there. we'll bring you back to get behind the scenes from the gym but also from the floor and whether or not there's anything that's going to come of these meetings, whether or not there's a vote on the house side. there were eight senators who voted against that compromise measure, the opposition coming from both parties yet senate democrats tom harkin, tom carper and michael bennet voting no. so did mike lee, richard shelby, rand paul, chuck %a#zgrassley, o rubio, a tiny minority. the senate passed the fiscal cliff deal with an overwhelming bipartisan
a lot of people speak passionately, i assume about the fiscal cliff before the republican convene in a smaller group. >> reporter: the house convened at 12:00 and what happens when the house convenes, every day they have what's called one-minute speeches. this is one of the opportunities for members of congress to come and say their peace and say what's on their mind and they have one minute. i'm sure what is on all members' mind at this point how they feel about the fiscal cliff deal....
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actually going over the fiscal cliff will help some republicans vote for a measure when maybe before they would have voted against it. some republicans up even though they are not on board, won't vote for this unless they have to. but i think john boehner wants more than 30 republicans to be on board with him. >> no doubt the case. brianna keilar in washington. looking for signs all morning about how this will go down. any smoke rising from the speaker's office, we know are you watching. >> let's dive into the senate deal. what it does on the business side. popular tax breaks extended, including a credit for research, which benefits high-tech companies and appear an investment rightoff that helps manufacturers. the long-term unemployed receives emergency benefits for another year. doctors spared a 27% cut in medicare reimbursements set to take effect in january. the $30 billion cost would be cut by cutting other health care programs. >> and tim huelkamp, you and i got into a little dustup last night. brand new year, 2013. let's start over again. happy new year to you, sir. >> happy n
actually going over the fiscal cliff will help some republicans vote for a measure when maybe before they would have voted against it. some republicans up even though they are not on board, won't vote for this unless they have to. but i think john boehner wants more than 30 republicans to be on board with him. >> no doubt the case. brianna keilar in washington. looking for signs all morning about how this will go down. any smoke rising from the speaker's office, we know are you watching....
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senate has passed a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the white house reached an agreement with senate republicans late on monday on a deal to stop spending cuts from taking effect automatically. it's not just the fiscal cliff lawmakers have to worry about. the treasury department is taking steps to buy time. the vote to raise the debt ceiling sets the stage for another fight on capitol hill. doctors are confident hillary clinton will make a full recovery from a blood clot that formed inner hea her head. the clot did not cause neurological damage. >> gurd fax millions of americans and doctors say cases are on the rise. -- gurd effects millions of americans. donna hamilton has more. >> reflexing from the stomach into the esophagus. it is ok to have acid in your stomach but not in the esophagus. >> the doctor is talking about the reflux disease or gurd, treated most of the time with acid medications. >> in most situations, they work very well. you'll always have a small minority of patients that did not respond to acid medication alone. >>
senate has passed a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the white house reached an agreement with senate republicans late on monday on a deal to stop spending cuts from taking effect automatically. it's not just the fiscal cliff lawmakers have to worry about. the treasury department is taking steps to buy time. the vote to raise the debt ceiling sets the stage for another fight on capitol hill. doctors are confident hillary clinton will make a full recovery from a blood clot that formed inner hea...
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government is going over the fiscal cliff, even as senate republicans and the white house reported progress had been made, but house republicans say they will not vote on anything tonight. good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on today's developments, including an update from todd zwillich of public radio international, who's been tracking the story on the hill. >> woodruff: then, as secretary of state hillary clinton is hospitalized with a blood clot, we examine their causes and possible treatments. >> suarez: margaret warner talks to jonathan martin and glenn thrush of politico. their new e-book focuses on the crucial final month of the presidential race between barack obama and mitt romney. test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> w
government is going over the fiscal cliff, even as senate republicans and the white house reported progress had been made, but house republicans say they will not vote on anything tonight. good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on today's developments, including an update from todd zwillich of public radio international, who's been tracking the story on the hill. >> woodruff: then, as secretary of state hillary...
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and though we've now technically gone over the fiscal cliff, the senate is voting on a bipartisan compromise. the agreement which was hammered out by vice president joe biden and republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell would extend tax breaks for people earning less than $400,000 a year or $450,000 for families. it would extend unemployment benefits for a year, and automatic federal spending cuts known as sequester will be delayed for two months and paid for with a combination of tax increases and spending cuts. as you can see, the motion that's taking place on the floor right now, that vote is taking place and we're waiting to hear what the results of that will be. now, in a meeting on monday, vice president biden spent 90 minutes selling the plan for senate democrats and he has said he is optimistic about the results of this and now we are waiting to see if it turns out that he was correct about that. we're joined now on the phone by congressional correspondent mike, who has a lot more insight into exactly what's taking place here. mike, happy new year to you. >> happy new year.
and though we've now technically gone over the fiscal cliff, the senate is voting on a bipartisan compromise. the agreement which was hammered out by vice president joe biden and republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell would extend tax breaks for people earning less than $400,000 a year or $450,000 for families. it would extend unemployment benefits for a year, and automatic federal spending cuts known as sequester will be delayed for two months and paid for with a combination of tax...
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with them right now the fiscal cliff is coming and we're all going to shoot off the fiscal cliff like thelma and louise and we're holding hands with grover norquist and everybody's crying mostly because the lose in the sixty six thunderbird to the grand canyon but the republicans even though they lost the election even though they lost seats in the house and lost seats in the senate they still refused to negotiate and they're being held hostage by their far right wing and that hasn't changed and it might might change next year but i don't i don't think so and loose with what about the polarization let's say in france right now after the election because the sitting president is not very popular right now. it's complicated because you you get a kind of windshield wiper effect in france you get one we can which the president sporty and the president himself are doing extremely badly for instance you have the steel works. with mr lakshmi mittal the fact that basically the president and the prime minister the minister for industry all had different theories about what to do and how to try
with them right now the fiscal cliff is coming and we're all going to shoot off the fiscal cliff like thelma and louise and we're holding hands with grover norquist and everybody's crying mostly because the lose in the sixty six thunderbird to the grand canyon but the republicans even though they lost the election even though they lost seats in the house and lost seats in the senate they still refused to negotiate and they're being held hostage by their far right wing and that hasn't changed...
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cliff deal continued, but house republican leaders opted not to vote on anything tonight. that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be a part of kwame holman has the details. >> holman: we're tracking instagram with the hashtag "nye" to see how people around the world are ringing in 2013. tag yours tonight to be a part of our interactive map. on "ask larry," our social security sage offers tips on maximizing benefits for you and your spouse. and from our partners at kaiser health news, what the new health care law says about gun ownership. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday, we have an update on the ongoing recovery efforts in the devasta
cliff deal continued, but house republican leaders opted not to vote on anything tonight. that meant the government will >> the house adjourned for tomorrow so the government is guaranteed to go over the fiscal cliff, at least for the moment. and doctors at a new york hospital announced secretary of state hillary clinton has a blood clot between the school and brain. but they said she's making excellent progress. we're capturing new year's eve celebrations around the world and you can be...
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a senior democratic source saying the white house has a deal with republicans to avoid the fiscal cliff. a deal in the senate. however, there are still some questions about senate democrats which is why vice president biden s now and capitol hill we are told by sources to essentially get some of the liberal democrats to sign on to the deal avoiding the fiscal cliff. as you look live at the capitol dome, the light on top of the dome is lit because the congress s in session. but we haven't seen the piece of legislation move forward, the specifics. as you look live, vice president biden walked into the democratic caucus meeting there just beyond where the reporters are standing there by the microphones and said happy new year, happy new year, isn't it great that you all are here tonight. so what about this deal that is shaping up? the house will not be taking it up tonight. they have adjourned for the night and they will reconvene in 2013. actually you noon tomorrow the house will come back. essentially the u.s. will go over the fiscal cliff. but what about this deal that is shaping up and
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even though republicans and democrats have agreed on a plan for tax rates as one part of the fiscal cliff negotiations, there will be no vote on such a plan in the house tonight. the lower chamber has adjourned until tomorrow at noon. but over in the senate, lawmakers say they could see a vote on that agreement some time before morning. >> i think there is going to be an attempt to try to bring this to the floor this evening. and so you're probably talking several hours before it would come to the floor. but i think they're going to do that decision. >> senator corker was echoed by senator tom coburn of oklahoma who explained why after weeks of no movement in congress there is a sudden push to get a deal done. here is with cnbc's larry kudlow. >> let me ask you, sir. do you think tonight there will be a senate vote on some kind of deal? >> well, i think there should be very late tonight or early in the a.m., even if this gets enacted in the next couple of days, it's all going to be retroactive to january 1st. but the very point of it is when you have a deal of this nature, you need to get
even though republicans and democrats have agreed on a plan for tax rates as one part of the fiscal cliff negotiations, there will be no vote on such a plan in the house tonight. the lower chamber has adjourned until tomorrow at noon. but over in the senate, lawmakers say they could see a vote on that agreement some time before morning. >> i think there is going to be an attempt to try to bring this to the floor this evening. and so you're probably talking several hours before it would...
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deal aimed at at least portions of the fiscal cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> . >> never trust the caterers. anyway, republican national chairman committee man. i say that because i could not have been somebody who paid 1 $10,000 to go 234 there and then hurt the guy. >>> if u you're right about this election, it's the numbers. first of all, they occupy people. 1 pnt. all of the sudden, 1% became the thing to talk about. and then the 47% being anybody who's on any kind of government benefit program. whether it's disability or retirement or military or pension. everything was panted as bad. where did he get that number? >> well, look, you know, this election was all
deal aimed at at least portions of the fiscal cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video....
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government is going over the fiscal cliff, even as senate republicans and the white house reported progress had been made, but house republicans say they will not vote on anything tonight. good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on today's developments, including an update from todd zwillich of public radio international who's been tracking the story on the hill. >> woodruff: then, as secretary of state hillary clinton is hospitalized with a blood clot, we examine their causes and possible treatments. >> suarez: margaret warner talks to jonathan martin and glenn thrush of politico. their new e-book focuses on the crucial final month of the presidential race between barack obama and mitt romney. test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we
government is going over the fiscal cliff, even as senate republicans and the white house reported progress had been made, but house republicans say they will not vote on anything tonight. good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> suarez: and i'm ray suarez. on the newshour tonight, we have the latest on today's developments, including an update from todd zwillich of public radio international who's been tracking the story on the hill. >> woodruff: then, as secretary of state hillary...
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republicans to date, once the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, it's the democrats who could revolve. as soon as taxes go up tomorrow and republicans will be racing, democrats assume, will be racing to find a way to bring taxes down, and many democrats are of the opinion that that will give democrats enormous leverage come tomorrow. they'll have more negotiating power come tomorrow. you might see democrats tomorrow be even less willing to sign on to this deal. in 24 hours, democrats might like today's deal even less, wolf. >> it's getting more and more complicated as the delay continues over at the white house. are they at least suggesting that if we go over the cliff tomorrow, that there's still a possibility that both -- let's say the senate doesn't act tonight, that they act sometime tomorrow. they say they can still resolve this, so for practical purposes, the worst parts of this fiscal cliff won't be really felt by the american public? >> absolutely. the problems are not technical. in terms of putting off the taxation and what has to be done mechanically with the irs, so that am
republicans to date, once the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, it's the democrats who could revolve. as soon as taxes go up tomorrow and republicans will be racing, democrats assume, will be racing to find a way to bring taxes down, and many democrats are of the opinion that that will give democrats enormous leverage come tomorrow. they'll have more negotiating power come tomorrow. you might see democrats tomorrow be even less willing to sign on to this deal. in 24 hours, democrats might like...
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. >>> meanwhile, the country is just hours away from going over the so-called "fiscal cliff." and as the clock ticks, republicans and democrats in congress are still butting heads. vice president joe biden is now directly involved in the 11th-hour negotiations. but, there's no deal if sight. and that means taxes could go up for just about everyone american as soon as tomorrow. >>> a tense takeoff for passengers aboard a flight from kansas city to denver. a piece of an engine covering fell off. a passenger snapped this photo. the united flight circled the airport there in kansas city for 20 minutes before making an emergency landing. >>> and indianapolis colts head coach chuck pagano is back. in the saddle. enjoying a triumphant return. pagano was on the sidelines on sunday for the first time since fighting his leukemia. it went into complete remission. the 52-year-old returned after a three-month absence to tears and cheers of joy, and a win for his comeback colts who are now in the playoffs. >>> and, finally, a good holiday weekend for hollywood. "the hobbit" was once again t
. >>> meanwhile, the country is just hours away from going over the so-called "fiscal cliff." and as the clock ticks, republicans and democrats in congress are still butting heads. vice president joe biden is now directly involved in the 11th-hour negotiations. but, there's no deal if sight. and that means taxes could go up for just about everyone american as soon as tomorrow. >>> a tense takeoff for passengers aboard a flight from kansas city to denver. a piece of...
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now he's got the fiscal cliff. blame the republicans. and the truth is, in the short-term, the g.o.p. gets the blame. and they deserve it a little bit. but in the long-term, things change. stuart: you are a republican strategist. why do you say that republicans deserve some of the blame short-term? >> well, they deserve it the same way everyone in washington deserves it. no one in washington is incentiveized to think about the long-term. everyone is thinking about the short-term. by the way we see this in the private sector as well where companies think about, you know, the next quarter and never think about the long-term. the problem is the government gets to kick this can down the road endlessly and it is our cans they are kicking. stuart: if you are a republican and you see a bad policy coming down the pike at you, and you're supposed to compromise with it, namely, raising tax rates on the rich, should you do that just to get along with the other side? just to get a deal? just to get some compromise? or should you stick with the princ
now he's got the fiscal cliff. blame the republicans. and the truth is, in the short-term, the g.o.p. gets the blame. and they deserve it a little bit. but in the long-term, things change. stuart: you are a republican strategist. why do you say that republicans deserve some of the blame short-term? >> well, they deserve it the same way everyone in washington deserves it. no one in washington is incentiveized to think about the long-term. everyone is thinking about the short-term. by the...
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that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. >>> good morning. we're live at the new york stock exchange. of course the moment we've been waiting for, the senate reconvening as we speak. 11:00 a.m. eastern time. we are waiting to see whether any progress has been made between republican senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. john harwood has told us they have not only had constructive talks, but talked past midnight, at 6:30 a.m. this morning. markets reacting quite like this, the dow down about 12 points, s&p positive by about three, and the nasdaq up about 15. meantime in hong kong, they are already celebrating the new year. this is a live picture of what's happening on the other side of the planet and that scene will be a lot more familiar to those on the east coast in just a few hours time. meantime just a few hours to go, still no deal on the fiscal cliff. how are the markets going to be impacted heading into the new year? head of research joining us from new york, andrew, happy new year to you. all kinds of predictions becaus
that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. >>> good morning. we're live at the new york stock exchange. of course the moment we've been waiting for, the senate reconvening as we speak. 11:00 a.m. eastern time. we are waiting to see whether any progress has been made between republican senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. john harwood has told us they have not only had constructive talks, but talked past midnight, at 6:30 a.m. this...
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cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is g
cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's...
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this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been sidestepped. republicans reported dropping their demand to slash social security cost of living increases, the chain cpi that had been briefly on the table. what are the chances we'll get the deal done today? let's listen to republican congressman jason chaffetz earlier on "starting point." >> the united states senate hasn't passed a budge net four years. they have not brought up a single thing for vote on this particular bill. come on, the senate has got to do their job. that's how it works around here. >> more of the same old blame game. senator
this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been...
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still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off. >>> millions of americans will countdown to a fiscal cliff. a development that could send the nation back to recession. yesterday, the two parties turned to their respective closers, vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a back door deal done. the republican is not giving up. >> i'm interested in getting a result here. willing to work with whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. >> all right according to the president, there has always been and still is one big sticking point. raising
still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off....
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if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes skyrocket. the major sticking points or entitlements and tax increases. house republicans met into the evening and we'll find out in the morning whether joe biden and mitch mcconnell made any progress in their talks. both houses will be back in session tomorrow. those are your headlines this hour, i'm don lemon, keeping you informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. >>> three, two, one. and liftoff -- >> may 2012, space x launched a rocket into space, becoming the first commercial company to dock a space krach at the international space station. private companies instep stead of nasa sending cargo to the station. it was one of the space industry's top accomplishments. one of our top scientific breakthroughs of 2012. it was a banner year for bad behavior and not all of it easy to stomach. from sports to politics and beyond. here's joe johns with the ten most scandalous stories of 2012. >> number 10, royalty gone wild. this year the british royal jewels got a public viewing, in las vegas, princ
if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes skyrocket. the major sticking points or entitlements and tax increases. house republicans met into the evening and we'll find out in the morning whether joe biden and mitch mcconnell made any progress in their talks. both houses will be back in session tomorrow. those are your headlines this hour, i'm don lemon, keeping you informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. >>> three, two, one. and liftoff --...
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that this fiscal cliff thing is too much austerity so quickly. at one point. so what is the worst case scenario at this point? >> well, austerity works both ways. austerity for the public sector is stimulus for the private sector. it's the same money, you're just shifting it from one pocket to another. spending cuts would be very reassuring to the markets. you're hearing that if government spending is cut, that money disappears from the economy. that's not correct. that money has to be cycled into the private sector. that's a good thing. so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government would be very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere because of the euro situation you have to cut people's wages to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue, austerity in terms of reversing the tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in 30-odd percent increase in four years. and th
that this fiscal cliff thing is too much austerity so quickly. at one point. so what is the worst case scenario at this point? >> well, austerity works both ways. austerity for the public sector is stimulus for the private sector. it's the same money, you're just shifting it from one pocket to another. spending cuts would be very reassuring to the markets. you're hearing that if government spending is cut, that money disappears from the economy. that's not correct. that money has to be...
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one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and romney was the best of a very weak field. he himself was a very odd candidate. after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and a man whose essential issue of the 2010 campaign was obamacare, but he had passed something similar in massachusetts. he had two strikes against him, which made it very difficult begins the difficult rigid discipline obama to win. >> i think obama won because republicans underestimated him, and they did it through sell collision that goes back to 2010 when they considered this to be a referendum on barack obama. it was not a referendum on barack obama. it was a referendum on the economy and the incumbent, but not barack obama the person. republicans left the race feeling like this would be a slam-dunk in 2012. they missed the fact that the turnout i
one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and romney was the best of a very weak field. he himself was a very odd candidate. after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and a man whose essential issue of the 2010 campaign...
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and this one, we could solve this fiscal cliff and budget problems more than congress. this is the type of frustration that people are venting today. a few more of the tweets. this one from randy christian lee, and our founding fathers are turning over in their graves. come 2013, things will never be the same in this country. if we go over the cliff, it is not overnight or massive and drastic, so don't worry about the of night fears. here are a couple more. stop blaming the politicians, but the voters who put them all in and expected a different result than the last four years. that is from marc on twitter. one more, lou from congress, big bunch of babies and waiting for the last minute to look like a hero and continual joke. i will tell you that we are hearing from a lot of people, and martin, no doubt that what people are saying is resonating all over the country, and a lot of people are sharing the frustration. vent and send us your ireports to ireport.com and join the discussions on facebook and twitter to josh levs@cnn and if you think we should go over the cliff,
and this one, we could solve this fiscal cliff and budget problems more than congress. this is the type of frustration that people are venting today. a few more of the tweets. this one from randy christian lee, and our founding fathers are turning over in their graves. come 2013, things will never be the same in this country. if we go over the cliff, it is not overnight or massive and drastic, so don't worry about the of night fears. here are a couple more. stop blaming the politicians, but the...
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those voices have been buried behind the simplicity of a fiscal cliff. the press loves a deadline. >> the press loves a deadline and loves colorful language like fiscal cliff. thanks for joining us. >>> at the top of the hour, state of the union has republican reaction to the president's interview on "meet the press." did we really need to go haywire over david petraeus? mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're always there for me. shh! i'll get you a rental car. i could also use an umbrella. fall in love wi
those voices have been buried behind the simplicity of a fiscal cliff. the press loves a deadline. >> the press loves a deadline and loves colorful language like fiscal cliff. thanks for joining us. >>> at the top of the hour, state of the union has republican reaction to the president's interview on "meet the press." did we really need to go haywire over david petraeus? mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and...
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>> if the fiscal cliff process that he is involved in does not poison his relationship with the republicans in congress, perhaps. but if things get very bad now with the republicans in congress, maybe not. >> o'donnell: joe? >> i think one of the clearest lessons from the last election was the republicans have to begin to deal with the growing latino community in this country, and that there will be plenty of respects ready to vote for immigration reform. >> o'donnell: and, michael, the president always said today he is going to put his full weight behind some gun measures that would keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. can that pass? >> i don't know. one of the most interesting public opinion trends in the last decades is support in america for gun rights and same-sex marriage has increased, about the same rate, about 16 points in about eight years. it's really interesting. >> very libertarian. >> exactly. >> neither democrats or republicans take those tricks there. it's a libertarian streak in the public. that's harder than it was for a few years ago for the president. joe bide
>> if the fiscal cliff process that he is involved in does not poison his relationship with the republicans in congress, perhaps. but if things get very bad now with the republicans in congress, maybe not. >> o'donnell: joe? >> i think one of the clearest lessons from the last election was the republicans have to begin to deal with the growing latino community in this country, and that there will be plenty of respects ready to vote for immigration reform. >> o'donnell:...
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. >>> the looming fiscal cliff with republican lindsey graham and dianne feinstein and the benghazi attack. a preview when we come back. >>> gwen tolbart will be back with the workweek preview. stay with us. we will be right back. it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> the so-called fiscal cliff is looming. a live look now at the capitol where lawmakers held negotiations into the night and early this morning. they will be con convening -- convening once again this afternoon. >> at the top of the hour, we are going to have an exclusive interview with senators diane phi stein and -- feinstein and lindsey graham. maybe they have gotten word as to how these negotiati
. >>> the looming fiscal cliff with republican lindsey graham and dianne feinstein and the benghazi attack. a preview when we come back. >>> gwen tolbart will be back with the workweek preview. stay with us. we will be right back. it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who...
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[laughter] so let me start with the fiscal cliff idea and say there is no fiscal cliff. let me say second act conservatives and republicans -- about conservatives and republicans who are demoralized, get over it. we had a bad election. we did a number of stupid things. we faced an opponent who worked harder than we did, did some clever things. ronald reagan, one of his most important single statements is february 1975 in washington at the conservative political action committee meetingment now, i was part of this. i ran in '74. i've had no sense of timing. so i picked watergate to run in. [laughter] i'm in georgia. i'm a yankee-born army brat with a strange accent, a weird name running as a republican during watergate. this was beyond not clever. [laughter] this was like, you know, don't give him money, pay for the therapy. [laughter] in december of 1974 republican party id was at 17%, and there was serious talk about is the party going to disappear and be replaced. now, it was nonsenses, but it was serious talk , and i was part of the group doing serious, in-depth analy
[laughter] so let me start with the fiscal cliff idea and say there is no fiscal cliff. let me say second act conservatives and republicans -- about conservatives and republicans who are demoralized, get over it. we had a bad election. we did a number of stupid things. we faced an opponent who worked harder than we did, did some clever things. ronald reagan, one of his most important single statements is february 1975 in washington at the conservative political action committee meetingment now,...
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>> the election of 2012 primary and general election and the fiscal cliff. >> eleanor? >> political gaffes. i like to fire people. you didn't build that, corporations are people too my friend. and -- the -- what is it? the private sector is doing just fine. >> susan? >> the republican primary. too many debates, too much coverage. just oversaturation. >> clarence? >> overcoverage -- overreported story of the of sessionist movement after the election. >> the most overreported story of 2012. facebook. anything to do with facebook. from zuckerberg's will to the ipo to the ipo's dismal results to facebook's privacy policies you name it. facebook is so overreported. okay biggest government waste pat? >> obama gives stimulus billions of dollars to fat cat friends with green energy companies like solyndra. >> eleanor? >> war in afghanistan. >> overreported. >> no, no, biggest government waste. >> biggest government waste. my material. clarence? susan? >> government junkets, the government service administration spent $800,000 for a conference in las vegas. >> clarence? >> tax c
>> the election of 2012 primary and general election and the fiscal cliff. >> eleanor? >> political gaffes. i like to fire people. you didn't build that, corporations are people too my friend. and -- the -- what is it? the private sector is doing just fine. >> susan? >> the republican primary. too many debates, too much coverage. just oversaturation. >> clarence? >> overcoverage -- overreported story of the of sessionist movement after the election....
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we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have got to meet this deny. now what we're hearing, it is not that bad, we have time. >> what jessica said about the term paper, getting it done in time. you know what happens if you don't get it done in time? you get an f. and a lot of american voters are going to say an "f" to all the politicians if they don't get it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved in the weeks ahead. but this is kind of a black eye for the political system. here we are, two or three days ahead from the start of the year. without any american business investor, or worker, this just is not a very good way to run a country. and it is almost like banana republic politics. >> my dad used to say, no way to run a railroad. or government. let's talk about a couple of things, the whole idea that tax rates on everyone will go up. does the irs or the treasury department have the ability to sort of say look, here is some guidance? keep withholding where it is? >>
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most taxpayers and going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, a couple thing, ali. first of all, i think the outlines of that deal you just described are probably where they're headed, although i don't think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid -- i hear they're negotiating maybe a little higher income threshold, so maybe not $250,000, maybe $400,000 or $500,000. even the president put that on the table a couple weeks ago. i was pleased to hear jessica said she think wes ear inching towards an agreement. i don't want to go over this cliff. i think it would be a mistake politically and economically to do that. but i want to let your viewers know that this is not a fight about small things. it's a fight about big, big ideas, about what our entitlement programs are going to look like, what is our tax system going to look like, how much are we going to spend on all these programs. these are deep ideological divisions between the two parties. i hate to see it come to the edge of this cliff, but the ideas here that we're fighting about are of
most taxpayers and going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, a couple thing, ali. first of all, i think the outlines of that deal you just described are probably where they're headed, although i don't think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid -- i hear they're negotiating maybe a little higher income threshold, so maybe not $250,000, maybe $400,000 or $500,000. even the president put that on the table a couple weeks ago. i was pleased to hear jessica said she think wes ear inching towards an...